Tuesday, August 3, 2010

Personal Deity: The Proof.

I had thought of this for a while now, I sometimes ask myself why theists seem to be too self-centered on their supernatural beliefs; what I mean to say is that, if something good happens to them and bad to others, they say that, "their god has favored them for this and that and other preconceived ideas (which are obviously not based on anything)", if otherwise, they just say "it is the will of god, or he is testing me"; but when asked, "what made you say so?", the common answer is, "I just do", or they just ignore you.

That made me wonder, why are these theists too full of themselves, and they act as if they know what their god is thinking or doing; if god is infinite and we are finite -- if they are true -- why, then, do they know what their god is thinking? That doesn't connect at all. This made me think of the possibility that their god is governed by their own feelings, that they themselves are their own gods.


I have to test this though, I don't want to base my arguments on nothing (as what those theists do), so I talked to a number of theists, specifically christians, regarding this matter. Here's the gist:

Me: What made you think that there's a god?
Christian: The bible
Me: But the one's who wrote the bible are...
Christian: Yes, humans, BUT! (proudly), they were guided by god!

Me: [Orly], So.. basically, god wrote the bible?
Christian:[Yarly], Yes.
Me: Ah, so god wrote the bible, telling that he is real. Don't you find that stupid?
Christian: ... say what you want, I FEEL that god is real, for me, that is the truth.
 Me: So, you are basing your arguments on  your feelings?
Christian:Yes, I can't explain it to you using logic, because I can't, like all other christians, present an evidence that god is real.

Me: (WTF, you forgot about the bible thing) Oh, so you mean to say, that because you think that it is, it is.
Christian:Yes.
Me: I don't think that god exists, does that make me right?
Christian: We don't know who's right or not.

Me: (You just said it!) So, for some, he exists, for some, he doesn't?
Christian:Yes.
Me: So a universal god does not exist.
Christian: No, a universal god does exist.
Me: But, according to your logic, if I "feel" something, that makes it true for me!
Christian:Yes.
Me: That means, god is not universally existent.
Christian: God does exist, for me personally.

So there you have it, that's basically the things that go through a typical conversation with a christian.

God, then, exists only in the minds of those who believe in him, he's on a personal basis. (for some)

If god then, is only on a personal basis, why do they still force the idea that god "literally" exists? What is the reason for them to still cling on that idea?

To be continued.



DISCLAIMER:
The conversation above does not happen 100% of the time, but it's very common. So meh.

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